A truly dark day, one that Trump will forever gloat about because he "got away with it" because our justice system is too cowardly to do what is right because "you can't punish a president" or some nonsense.
You wouldn't know it by the way Merchan treated him today. Many agree he should have been sentenced but Merchan was worried about creating a "constitution crisis" which is bullshit.
Kim, Just goes to prove that Donnie is above the law, and better than any other citizen in America. Otherwise, he would not have gotten away with what he did. Just because Donnie was found guilty as a felon, does not seem to mean or even matter in any way to the GOP and the voters that elected him. Just my opinion, wishing everyone a nice 2025.
John, I believe that your comments apply to the whole justice system from the SCOTUS down to every court & judge that was involved in any of the court cases. Remember appeal, appeal, delay,delay,delay. Was all of that just a coincidence? Just my opinions,wishing everyone a nice 2025.
They certainly do, I single out Merchan in particular because he at least appeared to have some kind of spine when it came to putting Trump in his place. But sadly, he too has utterly disappointed the American people by refusing to do what is morally right because he could not bring himself to damage the office of president despite a clear and obvious history of Trump doing exactly that.
John, Thank you for your reply, I can agree with your comments. But my point was, that everyone involved & any of the judges involved could have done something, even if it had gotten appealed or reversed later. That is why I said "ALL" involved. Think about this for a few, just how many judges went along with all of the appeals & delays? Knowing full well what Donnie's lawyers were doing. I believe that ANY of those judges/courts could have put a stop to the delays if they had truly wanted to. They sure as heck would have done it to you, me or anyone else. Wishing everyone a very nice 2925.
Merrick Garland, did not want to seem political but by his actions or lack thereof, became so. thanks a lot Garland, because of your slowing for an entire year, and other related matters, this I feel, indirectly help Trump to get reelected
He’s scared. And he did the wrong thing. He has to live with that. What happened to people for standing up for what’s right and not being scared? Trump happened!! Because once he gets in he will fire all of the good people. What a sick psychopath. It begins. Even though I’m Canadian I care so much!!!!!
Jill, Donnie no longer has to think he is " GOD", he proved his point when he proved he is above the law. I keep wondering just how a lot of the people & voters will feel, if Donnie only does 1/2 of what he has already said he was going to do, once in office. Why should any of them complain about anything that Donnie does, they could not wait to elect him. Now it is time to pay the fiddler. Just an opinion. Wishing everyone a nice 2025.
Jill, you asked, "What happened to people for standing up for what is right & not being scared". Scared or not, that ship has already left port sailing south. I believe that most people that do stand up against the odds are still afraid or scared in some form, from a backlash of some type. But they still do it for the right reasons. Just my opinions, wishing everyone a nice 2025.
Marlo, just remember in politics anything is possible. By the way, just how many judges, people, etc. has Donnie already threatened in public, before, during, and after his court cases? Does that happen to tell you or anyone else what is possible? Wishing everyone a nice 2025.
Many Black activists already had an issue with Garland long before this because he didn't deal with police reforms after the famed bad shoots showed the serious need for them.
Jill, that applies to the SCOTUS and down to the lowest courts& judges involved. But another way of looking at the federal judges & courts, what can some of them do to bring about justice, if the higher courts & the SCOTUS is going to continue shooting down & reversing 99.9999% of what they do? I believe that there would be better & even stronger rulings from 99.999% of these judges and courts (both federal & state) if the SCOTUS would back them up more, in their independent sentencing & rulings. These are just my opinions,wishing everyone a nice day.
Joel, You have to give Donnie credit,(1) he proved that he is above the law,(2) he did & still is able to sucker in millions of people & their $$$$$ with his sweet talk, by telling enough voters what they wanted to hear. Just an opinion.
Indeed👍 and the Supreme Court, has in effect made Trump a king, well I did not vote for their king, the orange menace returns, to inflict more harm, more damage and world of hurt, so congratulations Maga, your stupidity, will hurt most all of us, a most vile conman, you wanted change, you wanted to shake the system up, well, guess what Maga world, your indeed going to get it and trust me, some or many, will not like what you will be getting or the results.
Joel, It means that someone gets rid of someone once that person is no longer of any use to them, google it to get a better understanding than I can give you in this post. They were my opinions, have a nice day.
John, thank you for the post. Anyone that voted to elect Donnie, should not have any complaints, no matter what he does or says, because they were so determined to elect him, now comes the consequences. I am in my 90s, and may not live to see it, but I am sure as heck would like to see, just how Donnie & the voters who elected him are going to react when the 2028 election time rolls around. Are these same GOP politicians & voters still think that Donnie is the most wonderful "King" that they ever elected? Just an opinion.
Indeed, they could not wait to vote for Trump the tyrant again, in fact to some of the Maga voters, he is savior from all things truly non -racist- that speaks of one's humanity, belt yourself in people, it will be one rough ride through Trump hell.
John, thank you, remember the old saying, be very careful what you wish for, you may not like the results. As for me, I will get the last laugh, when Donnie starts throwing all of these different MAGA etc., under the bus. Especially when he no longer needs them or they do not bend the knee to him. And Donnie has already proven many, many, many times in the past that he will do just that when they are no longer needed. Wishing everyone a nice day.
Trump, once on radio the with Howard Stern or believe it was, Trump talked down about the voters who vote for him, so with anyone in and around his orbit, once he has gotten what he wants from you, your then dispensable, so indeed with Maga voters, they will find out just how much he cares about them, they too, most if not, will be thrown under the bus
John, if you do not mind my asking, just what does it, or would it take to remove a Ex- POTUS, or a sitting POTUS? Since trying to overthrow the president's office, committing crimes & being found guilty, etc. does not remove him or her? Would committing a murder or having one done, still not reach the level to remove them? At least in the eyes of the GOP Politicians, SCOTUS, backers, supporters & some voters, it does not seem to reach that level. Just an opinion, have a nice day.
And he's just getting started. The America we thought we lived in is dead. Trump will go full dictator now because all the good people who could have stopped him did nothing. Watching them destroy the country and government from the inside will be quite the experience.
Claire, I do not know, but ask the GOP politicians, MAGA, and the voters who elected Donnie. Maybe somewhere along the line, someone can answer your question. Just an opinion.
I wish I could offer you some words of comfort, but it seems likely things will actually be worse than anyone can even imagine right now. Guess I am going to start praying again.
Andy, They elected him, and now they have to suffer the consequences that they asked for by electing him. I feel sorry for the other half, they did not ask for this & even voted against Donnie to prove their point. I believe that if anyone besides Harris had been on the ticket, things might have been a lot different. But we the public & the voters will never know, because it never happen. But I guess it does not hurt to wonder what could have been.
(A quick aside, it will forever gall me that the man most responsible for disgracing the office of the presidency continues to benefit from the respect others reserve for it—either out of habit or necessity.).
And yet many still speak about the “rule of law” as if the rule of law is not corrupted by those who buy politicians to get the laws in place—citizens United, presidential immunity from crimes, decisions protecting states rights to rig elections, etc., as if the rule of law is just.
Please remember that the whole concept of the rule of law in our legal system was created and formalized by the Colonial UK—which we incorporated into our legal system—to give legal justification for the colonization of other parts of the world so that they could be exploited to increase the wealth of the UK colonizers.
This same rule of law is now used to protect the bloated ticks of human blood in our country.
Joel, just me, but I believe that the SCOTUS, the courts & judges ( with their delay, delay, dragging their feet & showing backbone to stand up for what is/was right. Had more of an impact on the outcome of the court cases than Nancy P, Schummer ever thought about. Remember that there were a lot of GOP VIP's, politicians, MAGA, big $$$$ backers & supporters, that used their influence to get a lot of the delay, delay & appeals done to help Donnie. That the average American citizen will never get or even see in any court or from any judge. Whether you like it or not, Donnie proved that he is above the law by running out the clock, while some of his lawyers are paying a price for going along with him. It seems like Donnie once made the statement that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and nothing would ever be done about it. Just how right he was. Just my opinions, have a nice day
Joel, I do not think that Putin wants anything to do with Donnie in any form. (1) especially if Donnie continues the sanctions against Russia & continues helping Ukraine & Israel to the tune of billions& billions every few months like Biden was doing. (2) On the other hand Netanyahu & Israel are going to love Donnie for all of his $$$$$$ billions& billions and military aid to help clear out Palestine. Only time will answer the 2 questions. Just an opinion.
Maybe Putin doesn't want anything to do with Donnie but remember, to Putin, Donnie is a "useful idiot". He will cajole him and pretend to like him and watch him fall right into his trap.
Karen, While that may be true. Just look at "ALL" of the different MAGA, GOP, politicians, backers, supporters, & voters that fell into Donnie's trap. Only to be thrown under the bus when no longer needed. So, who is the big winner, Putin or Donnie? Have a nice day.
Jim, while I agree, nothing will change until they can install some justices in the Supreme Court who will back the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc., and not make their own rules and laws as they go along, supporting whomever THEY want at the time. The Supreme Court justices should start by supporting some of the lower courts and judges in their rulings. Just my opinion, which I am sure some will not like or even agree with. Have a nice day.
It is heartbreaking that Merrick Garland was paralyzed to do anything. Alito and he are on speed dial. The courts didn’t give us relief and people voted economy, and wedge issues.
Michael, I believe it is more like watching a train wreck in slow motion, destroying everything in its path, and knowing there is not much you can do to stop it.
I contacted the elections crime division who gave me this email address:
Central.CISA.DHS
Stephen Spoonamore has said that the best and quickest way to prove hacking is to pick at least two precincts in each swing state. Those in the so called "blue wall" In the Great Lakes region especially, and do hand recounts, (machine recounts will NOT show the hack!).
I also contacted the FBI headquarters who routed me back to Detroit. I emailed Craig Pender at:
I am so happy to see more people posting the truth of what went down on Nov. 5th. What maddens me is that we were not given the same recounts and audits that Trump was given. Our Democratic leaders just caved--as Democrats so often do.
Seiferlein, Talk about the Democrats caving in. What did the GOP and the Rep. politicians all across America do for Trump? I believe they "ALL" also caved into Donnie and his wants. Would you not agree? So, it was not just the Democrats who caved in, but both parties caved in. Just like both parties do 98%+ all of the time. Just think what a wonderful country America could & would be if all parties involved would try much harder to work together for the betterment of America. Oh well, just more wishful thinking, especially since it will never happen.
Great resources Marlo. Let's not forget the massive voter suppression that went on as told in the documentary by Greg Palast. Very powerfully done. Should be shared regardless of how this plays out. Some don't understand how that is fraud as well. Long time fraud few white or libs of color speak of anymore. It never fully left our system and they are much more blatant about it recently. saveyourvote (org)
Honestly, Mary, I had very serious doubts that anything whatsoever would stick to the orange sadist. I celebrate today's conviction. Now I'm hoping that either the very weak and meek Garland will -- FINALLY -- do the right thing and release BOTH of Jack Smith's cases; OR the kindly President Biden will do so under the insane SCOTUS immunity ruling; OR some good soul from wherever will release that information that belongs to US: We the People. If that happens, on top of a guilty verdict, given the extremely tenuous current circumstances, I'll take that as a win.
Really good point about having something stick to him. That's basically how I feel about it, that he's been branded a loser, which really hits him where he lives. I was heartened to see that the 11th circuit said that at least the J6 report could be released. The legal opinions I've seen are that Garland will release the J6 report publicly.
And speaking of losers, how about his buddy Giuliani being charged with contempt for a *second* time for defaming the lovely election workers *again*? What is wrong with these people?
What happens if Guilliano gets a presidential psrdon?. Is his debt to the workers void? Seems the American worker is the last in the pecking order when they PAY for the creeps that gravitste to it. Respect bah.
My understanding is that for defaming the election workers, he CANNOT be pardoned by Trump. The case brought by Freeman and Moss is a civil suit and ‘Donold’ (as ‘God’ calls him) can only pardon federal criminal offenses. I think that is also true of State offenses (like the Georgia horrors, right? And, in fact the New York case). I am NOT a legal expert and hope someone will correct me if I got it wrong.
The kicker is Walt Nauta and the other fellow can be found guilty for what they did in service to Drumpf but Drumpf himself skates. Prime example of the different tiers of justice.
You're right, nothing much stuck. Of all the cases against him this was the least significant because people didn't understand it and figured it was a put up job. But if you think Biden will at the last minute do anything he hasn't already been doing or not doing you're mistaken. He won't. I think we all knew he wasn't going to do anything he wouldn't have done if the Court hadn't ruled the way it did. And he hasn't.
The SCOTUS gave him the tools he needed to stop this debalcle. He chose to do nothing. He doesn't have the gumption or the imagination to think outside the corporate Dem box. He's content to simply hand us over to tyranny.
I hold no hopes Biden will do anything. Both he and Harris ignored the evidence of fraud that was given to them both. Even Obama ended up being the bankster's best buddy and gives speeches to banksters now for $600,000 a pop like the Clinton's do. They are still stealing homes using fraud and not being punished. When I first ran across him that was his deal. Housing affordability working the C Greens in Chicago. Oh, how power changes even the best people. Establishment dems are just what the name implies. Status quo 'til they breathe no mo'.
If he had done something, we wouldn't be at this juncture. I don't know if it's complicity, ignorance, cowardice or what, but I am so over thet Democratic Corporate Party. Again, they have shown themselves unequal to the task set before them.
Alcatraz. He can't escape. He prefers being shot to being thrown to the sharks he said. Might be how he got the idea of an assassin and a concealed razor to slice his ear. Can you imagine the draft dodger shouting FIGHT after being shot?;That was so contrived. Dead men tell no tsils.
I kknew it was staged from Day One. Him with that stupid ear tampon. If a bullet even grazes your ear, it will do noticable damage. I wonder if he had a crushed fake blood packet in that clenched fist. He used to be with WWE or WWF, whatever. He'd know how to stage an injury.
Yes he gave the WWE boss a medal of freedom or a pardon or what ever. I figured that was for teaching him about mass hysteria and lending him his crowd urgers for his rallies. He never really tacked Mr McMaaaaan you TRUMPISTS. DAGS.
Remember to save a little rage for Chief Justice John Roberts, the lickspittle that created a monarch breaking his own oath to US Constitution and paving the way for your uncle's continued unabated lawlessness into 2025 and the 47th presidency.
It’s 2016 all over again: we watch in impotence and horror as this vile criminal damages, undermines, and sullies our country, and we are utterly helpless because WE obey the laws. The law keeps us from expressing or executing any action to effectively protest. Faced with lawlessness we who respect the law are neutralized, waiting sheeplike for…wait for it!—-the MIDTERMS!!! FOR TWO FULL YEARS, the new anti-American president will wale away at our Constitution, steal social security funds belonging to those who earned them, undo as much as he can of Benjamin Franklin’s USPS, bring disgrace and discredit upon our government, betray our allies, and jeopardize the last seventy years of hard-won global stability. Why? That is the question that bedevils me: why? Why is an American president hell-bent on sabotaging the US? Colluding with Putin? Just so he can build more tasteless hotels in the old USSR? Is this why this man who has enjoyed the most sumptuous wealth any nation can provide wants to unmake the source of that wealth? It’s a serious question: WHY?? It makes no sense.
I’m afraid it is truly insane and there’s a lunatic at the helm.
Had he not "won" the election that he actually stole (there is proof that she would have won)....read up on what Arizona has put out on the web about what was found with them!) then he would be heading to prison / jail by now! Garland is actually not a democrat! I think that's why he hadnt had him checked out until after the j6 committee gave him their report.
There is no proof. Y'all really believe that Harris and Democrats would just let it slide, with as hard as everyone worked to get her elected? With what they all knew we'd be facing with trump in office for another 4 years? No way would any viable proof be kept a secret. Any number of true patriots would have found a way to let that cat out of the bag, to keep Cap'n Chaos out of our White House.
But there IS proof. Some admitted to on camera. This is but one thing of many that folks need to know about. Watch this documentary and see if you don't feel differently. I have been following and interacting with Greg for a while and he does not release things casually. He is a legit investigative reporter. Harris was made aware of this documentary by Rev Jackson when he visited her right after the election. saveyourvote (org)
Interesting you bring up Arizona Theresa. A while back Arizona's secretary of state asked John Roberts Brakey to audit the elections there to be sure there wasn't an issue. That time he found none. The repubs got rid of her shortly afterwards. They wanted none of those audits even when they "win". John runs AUDIT Elections USA. A bipartisan org that has been auditing elections for quite a while. Great group to support. He is an expert on machine voting irregularities and how those kinds of steals are done.
None of that proves that Harris won, nor that he stole the election, so we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Again, I would suggest that Harris and other Dems would not let legitimate proof slide. They have brought innumerable lawsuits against the voter suppression tactics/laws of red states, and so have other groups like the ACLU... year after year. So it doesn't even make sense that they would let trump take office if they knew it wasn't a legitimate win.
I will say, too, that we have a responsibility, as citizens, to do our part to protect democracy. That includes our civic duty to register to vote, and to cast an informed ballot. Given that some 90 million eligible voters didn't get to the polls on Nov 5th, I'd say that any successful cheating by trump wasn't the problem. When the largest voting block in the U.S. is (and has been) NON-voters, we certainly have much more to concentrate on than suspicions/allegations of cheating. And seriously, why should Dem legislators, who warned and warned about a close election and what a trump win would mean... keep trying to fight for our rights, when the majority of us don't make it a point to engage?
Jae, Even until Friday I THOUGHT Drumpf would get something. Sucker punched again, I felt like Charlie Brown. Completely duped. Every time it looked like “Aha! We’ve got him now!” something got in the way and justice was stopped in its tracks and the CRIMINAL4547 slipped away.
The only consolation I’m seeing (and it’s likely not consolation for all the many people he hurt) is that he will keep dementing to the point he will no longer be able to stay in office or commit crimes. He will no longer be able to bully people. In the end, he will die unloved and disrespected.
What the country needed right after Joe Biden was elected were tribunals that punished ALL of the MAGA coup actors with either prison, fines and expulsion from politics. That would have set the necessary precedent about what political behavior was acceptable and what wasn’t.
FELON Trump will be recorded in the Annals of History as the BIGGEST and WORST Mistake America EVER made.
And I will be wearing this "Guilty on all 34 Charges" shirt the next four years 👇
You are exactly right. Biden chose to fritter away the time he was given to make sure justice was done. And yet the corporate Dems and their shills don't seem to care about anything but "the optics".
Canada has a different set of values and laws, and it seems like a bad move for anyone who’s been involved in actions that harm democracy or public trust.
A lot do. I haven't double checked but Canada, UK, France and Germany have been named in other articles I've read. If I remember right Australia was included in there
I think all countries should ban all trumps. Greenland was a little idiotic for letting Don Jr come there and act like an a******. They need to learn like Americans have that by inviting a trump somewhere you're giving them permission to Stage a lie, or a threat. It's all they got!
This has become the most upside-down country! I never thought I'd see the day when someone like L'orange Pustule, a 34-count felon, could walk away without punishment while someone like Leonard Peltier stays in jail for something he didn't do. I'm so thoroughly disgusted with it all and don't know how I'll manage the next 4 years. I know it'll be ugly. :(
There’s a pretty good chance the orange cretin will become president for life. This is the end of democracy as we’ve known it. I’m so glad my Dad, a WWII veteran who fought for this country to defeat fascism, is not here to see this.
I've thought the same thing about my veteran dad, too, Jane. He died in 2017 at the age of 93 and absolutely hated tRump with a passion. He'd be so horrified about what is happening now, and afraid for all of us. Altho in some ways I wish he was here - he always had a very calming influence on me (and most people) and could see hope when others felt hopeless. We could all benefit from his presence now. And his good heart.
Thank you so much for sharing those fine qualities of your father. I hold the qualities of my father and uncles plus late friends dear, too. We have been so blessed!
I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that Vance doesn't have Trump's charisma. (I don't think Trump has any myself, but obviously some people do.) What this might mean is a leadership vacuum in the Republican Party. And that could lead to it fracturing. That's a guess. I don't really know though. I have no experience with people who have sex with couches.
Let’s hope he has a stroke that leaves him completely incapacitated, unable to function and especially unable to speak or type, and out of necessity has to resign. I know that leaves Vance, but… poetic justice!!!
10 yrs is maximum for any president..........trump will have to leave after these 4 yrs but not sure what would happen if he does an executive order claiming that the constitution is null and void! omgggggg That's when every law would need to throw the book at him and put handcuffs on him then!
Careful reading of the 22nd amendment shows that it prevents someone from being >elected< President for more than eight years. Nothing prevents him from >assuming< the office by some other means, for example if he runs for vice president on the ticket and his President - for example, Don Jr. - resigns on day one. He could simultaneously leave the Constitution in place and become President for as long as he lives.
A more certain way to disqualify Trump from the President - ever - would have been disqualification by the 14th amendment through conviction for insurrection. But Attorney General M. Garland, M for Milquetoast, saw to it that this path would not be available to us. Now, his chance of being convicted of insurrection under any AG he appoints is somewhere between zero and, well, zero.
Strictly speaking, none. He has skilled lawyers who can walk him right up to the edge of the law, plus the Supreme Court has his back, thanks to Mitch McConnell who gave him three nominations instead of one. Speaking of Mitch, history will record that he had multiple chances to limit Trump's power, particularly through the second impeachment, post January 6th, when Trump was out of office and convicting him would have had absolutely no impact on the government. If democracy fails in the USA, Mitch will be remembered as one of the chief useful idiots, playing directly into the hands of the Trumpists who already had their return to power planned.
The problem is that the Constitution was written partly assuming that reasonable people would use it as a foundation for governing reasonably. There's lots of checks and balances to prevent political groups from exercising inappropriate power over other political groups, but it doesn't seem like anyone predicted that a single individual would capture an entire center of political power and turn them into his willing pawns. Trump did it more than once, capturing the national Republican party and, with their help, the Supreme Court. Once he's immunized for all official acts, and We the People put "our" confidence in his ability to govern however he wishes, the question of whether the Constitution can withstand the power center he's created.
We'll just have to see how the next two years go - if he isn't controlling the system of statewide elections by then, we may get out of this still standing. But the same talents who got him this far are very aware that 2026 is make-or-break for their quest for absolute, unchallenged power, and you can be sure they will do everything they can to have the midterm elections go their way.
And, as we've seen, they're very, very good at accumulating power.
I share that concern for every honest, integrity filled veteran and citizen having to see such a disgrace to our country take place. The World War II loved ones in my family have also passed, but I feel like they are aware of what is happening.
Same here. My adopted father was a WWII veteran. I wonder what he'd make of this. He was a lifelong Republican, but I highly doubt he'd be down with this.
When I think of what WW2 did to my bio dad after serving in it I feel the same way. Those folks weren't weak like folks are now. They would rise up and do something about it. Now we cannot even be sure the military will not fire upon citizens for protesting this. Kent State on a bigger scale. Some of us asked Scott Air Force Base brass about what they would do about MAGA in their ranks if they went after citizens at a PR type gathering they had and they would not answer.
That could be bad or it could be good. Bad iif they would fire on fellow Americans. Good if they have some plans to deal with the MAGAs in their midst but don't want to show their hand.
It really is. Moments like these make it feel like the principles of justice and fairness are being undermined, and it’s disheartening to see how laws can be bent or ignored to protect the powerful. Do you think there’s any way to restore faith in the system, or does it feel like we're witnessing the erosion of justice?
This most disgraceful man-baby spends day and night trying to convince himself that he is perfect and perfectly mistreated. But he knows that he can never be as important as the lowliest of his fellow men.
No one should accept his ‘judgment’; he is the most worthless of all.
Judge Merchan is wrong to have concluded that, “It is the legal protections afforded to the Office of the President of the United States that are extraordinary, not the occupant.” He should have sentenced Trump just as he'd sentence any other criminal, and his sentence should have taken effect immediately. That would not put the Office of the President in any danger, and it needs no legal protections. The Constitution takes care of it. The 25th Amendment provides that, if "the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office [perhaps because he is in prison], the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office of Acting President." The Office of the President continues as usual, with no harm done.
The people of this country have the wrong idea about the office of the president; they treat it like the throne of a king. I'm not referring to the outrageous and extralegal finding by the six Republican politicians on the Supreme Court that the president is above the law. I'm referring to the fact that the president is a federal employee -- no more and no less. If a janitor who works for the federal government commits a crime and is sentenced to prison, does that threaten the Office of the Janitor? Of course not. The janitor's position can be filled by someone else while he or she is in prison, just as, under the 25th Amendment, the president's can be.
Very inciteful. Youre absolutely right.25th Ammendment of the disgarded Constitution. He was found ineligable to run for his INSURRECTION . Yet @kamalaharris certified all present and accounted for.
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment makes Trump ineligible to be president because he engaged in an insurrection. The Republican justices on the Supreme Court issued a ruling that makes it impossible to apply section 3. But nothing in the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the final word in interpreting the Constitution. The Supreme Court gave itself that power in Marbury v. Madison in 1803, and it has become accepted. But now that the Republican justices have gone rogue and ignore the parts of the Constitution and federal laws they dislike, the executive and legislative branch ought to consider rejecting rogue Supreme Court decisions.
But the Democrats instead roll over. The 12th Amendment provides that the President of the Senate, which means the Vice President, shall count the Electoral votes. On January 6, Harris should have protested the vote on the grounds that it is unconstitutional for Trump to be president. It wouldn't have made a difference, except to remind the country of that fact, but that's important. Harris's silence on the matter was a repetition of Al Gore's silence in January 2001, when he did not protest that the Republican justices had stolen the presidency from him in Bush v. Gore. The Democrats need to stand up for themselves, but they won't.
He is responsible for the dismantling of norms, traditions, respect for the rule of law, and our constitution.
A truly dark day, one that Trump will forever gloat about because he "got away with it" because our justice system is too cowardly to do what is right because "you can't punish a president" or some nonsense.
He's not president yet! I believe he should have been sentenced to prison too .
You wouldn't know it by the way Merchan treated him today. Many agree he should have been sentenced but Merchan was worried about creating a "constitution crisis" which is bullshit.
Yes, since installing him at all breaks the constitution bigly.
Trump? Oh for sure.
Kim, Just goes to prove that Donnie is above the law, and better than any other citizen in America. Otherwise, he would not have gotten away with what he did. Just because Donnie was found guilty as a felon, does not seem to mean or even matter in any way to the GOP and the voters that elected him. Just my opinion, wishing everyone a nice 2025.
I think he was just afraid he would lose his position as judge
John, I believe that your comments apply to the whole justice system from the SCOTUS down to every court & judge that was involved in any of the court cases. Remember appeal, appeal, delay,delay,delay. Was all of that just a coincidence? Just my opinions,wishing everyone a nice 2025.
They certainly do, I single out Merchan in particular because he at least appeared to have some kind of spine when it came to putting Trump in his place. But sadly, he too has utterly disappointed the American people by refusing to do what is morally right because he could not bring himself to damage the office of president despite a clear and obvious history of Trump doing exactly that.
John, Thank you for your reply, I can agree with your comments. But my point was, that everyone involved & any of the judges involved could have done something, even if it had gotten appealed or reversed later. That is why I said "ALL" involved. Think about this for a few, just how many judges went along with all of the appeals & delays? Knowing full well what Donnie's lawyers were doing. I believe that ANY of those judges/courts could have put a stop to the delays if they had truly wanted to. They sure as heck would have done it to you, me or anyone else. Wishing everyone a very nice 2925.
Merrick Garland, did not want to seem political but by his actions or lack thereof, became so. thanks a lot Garland, because of your slowing for an entire year, and other related matters, this I feel, indirectly help Trump to get reelected
He’s scared. And he did the wrong thing. He has to live with that. What happened to people for standing up for what’s right and not being scared? Trump happened!! Because once he gets in he will fire all of the good people. What a sick psychopath. It begins. Even though I’m Canadian I care so much!!!!!
And many Americans thank you for it.
Beware, he already points to Canada to become the next USA state 😖
True sign of a Narcissist. He thinks he’s God like. He’s an idiot.
Jill, Donnie no longer has to think he is " GOD", he proved his point when he proved he is above the law. I keep wondering just how a lot of the people & voters will feel, if Donnie only does 1/2 of what he has already said he was going to do, once in office. Why should any of them complain about anything that Donnie does, they could not wait to elect him. Now it is time to pay the fiddler. Just an opinion. Wishing everyone a nice 2025.
Jill, you asked, "What happened to people for standing up for what is right & not being scared". Scared or not, that ship has already left port sailing south. I believe that most people that do stand up against the odds are still afraid or scared in some form, from a backlash of some type. But they still do it for the right reasons. Just my opinions, wishing everyone a nice 2025.
You aren't wrong. Their refusal to just keep letting him stall didn't help.
I wonder if Trump’s goons threatened him like they did Fauci, Kinzinger, Cheney, Pelosi, the list is long.
Marlo, just remember in politics anything is possible. By the way, just how many judges, people, etc. has Donnie already threatened in public, before, during, and after his court cases? Does that happen to tell you or anyone else what is possible? Wishing everyone a nice 2025.
I would not be surprised, remember Trump has his long enemies list and he is a real tyrant to be sure.
John, And they still elected him. So I can not feel sorry for any of them. It gets pretty rough when the rooster comes home to roost Just an opinion.
Many Black activists already had an issue with Garland long before this because he didn't deal with police reforms after the famed bad shoots showed the serious need for them.
It seems like judges are now afraid to do their job, the job they went to school for to uphold justice. This is truly mind blowing. And very sad.
Jill, that applies to the SCOTUS and down to the lowest courts& judges involved. But another way of looking at the federal judges & courts, what can some of them do to bring about justice, if the higher courts & the SCOTUS is going to continue shooting down & reversing 99.9999% of what they do? I believe that there would be better & even stronger rulings from 99.999% of these judges and courts (both federal & state) if the SCOTUS would back them up more, in their independent sentencing & rulings. These are just my opinions,wishing everyone a nice day.
Of course it did. Comey 2.0. Our country is totally fucked now.
We the people, are responsible for Fuhrer Trumph!!. .
Not all of us, many of us voted against him.
Voting is easy !
No protests , door to door, on and on.
Voting can be fairly easy sure, but many of us would never have wanted him in office regardless.
What’s this “we” shit?
Ecactly.
We shit because WE shits , have done nothing but vote!
Whoopp dee doo!
Ikr. Weird.
We love it.
No nationwide protests.
Inauguration coming up.
Followed by Fuhrer Trumph dancing with his frau at the inauguration ball and laughing his ass off at all of us. . . . .
Joel, You have to give Donnie credit,(1) he proved that he is above the law,(2) he did & still is able to sucker in millions of people & their $$$$$ with his sweet talk, by telling enough voters what they wanted to hear. Just an opinion.
Indeed👍 and the Supreme Court, has in effect made Trump a king, well I did not vote for their king, the orange menace returns, to inflict more harm, more damage and world of hurt, so congratulations Maga, your stupidity, will hurt most all of us, a most vile conman, you wanted change, you wanted to shake the system up, well, guess what Maga world, your indeed going to get it and trust me, some or many, will not like what you will be getting or the results.
Doubt if white supremacists will even notice much less give a rats ass!
Joel, what good would it do if they noticed or not, after being thrown under the bus the first time they do not bend the knee? Have a nice day.
Not sure what the thrown under the bus means ?
Joel, It means that someone gets rid of someone once that person is no longer of any use to them, google it to get a better understanding than I can give you in this post. They were my opinions, have a nice day.
John, thank you for the post. Anyone that voted to elect Donnie, should not have any complaints, no matter what he does or says, because they were so determined to elect him, now comes the consequences. I am in my 90s, and may not live to see it, but I am sure as heck would like to see, just how Donnie & the voters who elected him are going to react when the 2028 election time rolls around. Are these same GOP politicians & voters still think that Donnie is the most wonderful "King" that they ever elected? Just an opinion.
Indeed, they could not wait to vote for Trump the tyrant again, in fact to some of the Maga voters, he is savior from all things truly non -racist- that speaks of one's humanity, belt yourself in people, it will be one rough ride through Trump hell.
John, thank you, remember the old saying, be very careful what you wish for, you may not like the results. As for me, I will get the last laugh, when Donnie starts throwing all of these different MAGA etc., under the bus. Especially when he no longer needs them or they do not bend the knee to him. And Donnie has already proven many, many, many times in the past that he will do just that when they are no longer needed. Wishing everyone a nice day.
Trump, once on radio the with Howard Stern or believe it was, Trump talked down about the voters who vote for him, so with anyone in and around his orbit, once he has gotten what he wants from you, your then dispensable, so indeed with Maga voters, they will find out just how much he cares about them, they too, most if not, will be thrown under the bus
John, if you do not mind my asking, just what does it, or would it take to remove a Ex- POTUS, or a sitting POTUS? Since trying to overthrow the president's office, committing crimes & being found guilty, etc. does not remove him or her? Would committing a murder or having one done, still not reach the level to remove them? At least in the eyes of the GOP Politicians, SCOTUS, backers, supporters & some voters, it does not seem to reach that level. Just an opinion, have a nice day.
The link is to an ad. Please don't click on it and please don't click on "Like." I hope that Mary removes it.
P.S. The same person posted it again.
Reported it
Me, too
Your post has been reported
What does that mean? To whom is it reported and what can the recipient of the report do about it?
Sometimes you should just ignore someone.
And he's just getting started. The America we thought we lived in is dead. Trump will go full dictator now because all the good people who could have stopped him did nothing. Watching them destroy the country and government from the inside will be quite the experience.
How much saliva does it take to lick a boot?
Trumps minions, that includes Zuckerberg and Bezos, groveling bootlickers
Claire, I do not know, but ask the GOP politicians, MAGA, and the voters who elected Donnie. Maybe somewhere along the line, someone can answer your question. Just an opinion.
Adolph Who? History repeats itself when good men allow bad men to thrive.
I’m petrified.
I wish I could offer you some words of comfort, but it seems likely things will actually be worse than anyone can even imagine right now. Guess I am going to start praying again.
I'm with you Carole, I too am terrified. The last few months have left me gob smacked.
I'm enraged.
Andy, They elected him, and now they have to suffer the consequences that they asked for by electing him. I feel sorry for the other half, they did not ask for this & even voted against Donnie to prove their point. I believe that if anyone besides Harris had been on the ticket, things might have been a lot different. But we the public & the voters will never know, because it never happen. But I guess it does not hurt to wonder what could have been.
Maybe. Maybe NOT. The investigation into their scam is revealed
(A quick aside, it will forever gall me that the man most responsible for disgracing the office of the presidency continues to benefit from the respect others reserve for it—either out of habit or necessity.).
And yet many still speak about the “rule of law” as if the rule of law is not corrupted by those who buy politicians to get the laws in place—citizens United, presidential immunity from crimes, decisions protecting states rights to rig elections, etc., as if the rule of law is just.
Please remember that the whole concept of the rule of law in our legal system was created and formalized by the Colonial UK—which we incorporated into our legal system—to give legal justification for the colonization of other parts of the world so that they could be exploited to increase the wealth of the UK colonizers.
This same rule of law is now used to protect the bloated ticks of human blood in our country.
You betcha!
Trumph was allowed by overrated cryptic Nancy P and Schumer to corrupt the law!
And WE just watched!
Just wait til after inauguration day !
Amerikka it will be !
With Putin and the KBG!
Joel, just me, but I believe that the SCOTUS, the courts & judges ( with their delay, delay, dragging their feet & showing backbone to stand up for what is/was right. Had more of an impact on the outcome of the court cases than Nancy P, Schummer ever thought about. Remember that there were a lot of GOP VIP's, politicians, MAGA, big $$$$ backers & supporters, that used their influence to get a lot of the delay, delay & appeals done to help Donnie. That the average American citizen will never get or even see in any court or from any judge. Whether you like it or not, Donnie proved that he is above the law by running out the clock, while some of his lawyers are paying a price for going along with him. It seems like Donnie once made the statement that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and nothing would ever be done about it. Just how right he was. Just my opinions, have a nice day
Joel, I do not think that Putin wants anything to do with Donnie in any form. (1) especially if Donnie continues the sanctions against Russia & continues helping Ukraine & Israel to the tune of billions& billions every few months like Biden was doing. (2) On the other hand Netanyahu & Israel are going to love Donnie for all of his $$$$$$ billions& billions and military aid to help clear out Palestine. Only time will answer the 2 questions. Just an opinion.
Maybe Putin doesn't want anything to do with Donnie but remember, to Putin, Donnie is a "useful idiot". He will cajole him and pretend to like him and watch him fall right into his trap.
Karen, While that may be true. Just look at "ALL" of the different MAGA, GOP, politicians, backers, supporters, & voters that fell into Donnie's trap. Only to be thrown under the bus when no longer needed. So, who is the big winner, Putin or Donnie? Have a nice day.
Jim, while I agree, nothing will change until they can install some justices in the Supreme Court who will back the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc., and not make their own rules and laws as they go along, supporting whomever THEY want at the time. The Supreme Court justices should start by supporting some of the lower courts and judges in their rulings. Just my opinion, which I am sure some will not like or even agree with. Have a nice day.
Slow moving coup
Yes, it is, Judith. Extremely maddening!
Thank you, Mary 💙.
It is heartbreaking that Merrick Garland was paralyzed to do anything. Alito and he are on speed dial. The courts didn’t give us relief and people voted economy, and wedge issues.
It's happening. Like a slow moving train wreck destroying everything in it's path.
Michael, I believe it is more like watching a train wreck in slow motion, destroying everything in its path, and knowing there is not much you can do to stop it.
Great analogy!
Two reasons Trump is not the legal president:
1. He is unqualified per the constitution as a confirmed insurrectionist that caused his impeachment; and
2. The election was hacked with an algorithmic manipulation (see “Dire Talks” YouTube video)
https://youtu.be/qmzGOQwMG_k
https://youtu.be/y3-jqU8m-80?si=AzvhGqSUU-bC6VC1
Also please read:
“Nine Ways To Prove The 2024 Election Was Stolen”
https://open.substack.com/pub/tinfoilmatt/p/nine-ways-to-prove-the-2024-election
https://electiontruthalliance.org/
SmartElections.US
I contacted the elections crime division who gave me this email address:
Central.CISA.DHS
Stephen Spoonamore has said that the best and quickest way to prove hacking is to pick at least two precincts in each swing state. Those in the so called "blue wall" In the Great Lakes region especially, and do hand recounts, (machine recounts will NOT show the hack!).
I also contacted the FBI headquarters who routed me back to Detroit. I emailed Craig Pender at:
CLpender@fbi.gov
Call Senators! Contact the media
Thank you for this, Marlo. Will do.
I am so happy to see more people posting the truth of what went down on Nov. 5th. What maddens me is that we were not given the same recounts and audits that Trump was given. Our Democratic leaders just caved--as Democrats so often do.
Seiferlein, Talk about the Democrats caving in. What did the GOP and the Rep. politicians all across America do for Trump? I believe they "ALL" also caved into Donnie and his wants. Would you not agree? So, it was not just the Democrats who caved in, but both parties caved in. Just like both parties do 98%+ all of the time. Just think what a wonderful country America could & would be if all parties involved would try much harder to work together for the betterment of America. Oh well, just more wishful thinking, especially since it will never happen.
“when they go low we go high. “How do you cope with pirates who refuse to play by the rules and refuse to fight fair?
Great resources Marlo. Let's not forget the massive voter suppression that went on as told in the documentary by Greg Palast. Very powerfully done. Should be shared regardless of how this plays out. Some don't understand how that is fraud as well. Long time fraud few white or libs of color speak of anymore. It never fully left our system and they are much more blatant about it recently. saveyourvote (org)
Thank you, Kim. Here is the link for Greg Palast’s documentary:
https://youtu.be/P_XdtAQXnGE
Exactly!
KBG for Trumph!
Easy to verify !
Dems haven't a clue !
Yeah with help of his SUPREME COURT!!!! And other people’s money!
Nope
We the indifferent people are 100% responsible for trumph.
Just think he gets paid , has secret service and will have a library in his name!
Even after the Trumph/ Putin/ KBG regime dismantles the Constitution and American Allies.
Just for starters.
So lets keep tweeting!
Dems haven't a clue !
Especially overrated cryptic Nancy P and Schumer!
Those who let him get away with it and enabled him sre also.
Yep ~ they created a new "legal term" - discharge???
How is history to look at these FACTS. thanks respectfully 📚🌐
.... there is more to come, i.e. dismantling a (half way) civilzed society and its accomplishments for the general populace
He has broken the world and our country.
👍Indeed
For sure!!!!!
And?
You feel Marc Elias hasn’t been on it?
Honestly, Mary, I had very serious doubts that anything whatsoever would stick to the orange sadist. I celebrate today's conviction. Now I'm hoping that either the very weak and meek Garland will -- FINALLY -- do the right thing and release BOTH of Jack Smith's cases; OR the kindly President Biden will do so under the insane SCOTUS immunity ruling; OR some good soul from wherever will release that information that belongs to US: We the People. If that happens, on top of a guilty verdict, given the extremely tenuous current circumstances, I'll take that as a win.
Really good point about having something stick to him. That's basically how I feel about it, that he's been branded a loser, which really hits him where he lives. I was heartened to see that the 11th circuit said that at least the J6 report could be released. The legal opinions I've seen are that Garland will release the J6 report publicly.
And speaking of losers, how about his buddy Giuliani being charged with contempt for a *second* time for defaming the lovely election workers *again*? What is wrong with these people?
What happens if Guilliano gets a presidential psrdon?. Is his debt to the workers void? Seems the American worker is the last in the pecking order when they PAY for the creeps that gravitste to it. Respect bah.
My understanding is that for defaming the election workers, he CANNOT be pardoned by Trump. The case brought by Freeman and Moss is a civil suit and ‘Donold’ (as ‘God’ calls him) can only pardon federal criminal offenses. I think that is also true of State offenses (like the Georgia horrors, right? And, in fact the New York case). I am NOT a legal expert and hope someone will correct me if I got it wrong.
I think you're right but I'm not a lawyer either.
You're pretty much right. I didn't know if Strike three was a Staye or federal issue. GO THE GIRLS👍
YAY!!!!!
He already got one pardon, back in 2020. I guess somebody can get two.
Why isn't he in jail after 2 contempt charges?
That's an excellent question.
It SHOULD be made public. We, the people, deserve truth!
I’ll believe it only when it actually happens.
he cant release vol 2 of it as there are a couple of people in that that havent had their time yet.
Well, a good leak could solve that problem!
👍
Yep!
The kicker is Walt Nauta and the other fellow can be found guilty for what they did in service to Drumpf but Drumpf himself skates. Prime example of the different tiers of justice.
When hasn't this been true?
You're right, nothing much stuck. Of all the cases against him this was the least significant because people didn't understand it and figured it was a put up job. But if you think Biden will at the last minute do anything he hasn't already been doing or not doing you're mistaken. He won't. I think we all knew he wasn't going to do anything he wouldn't have done if the Court hadn't ruled the way it did. And he hasn't.
He won't not do what he hasn't already not been doing? What if he decides to not do what he's already been doing, then changes his mind. ... or not?
The SCOTUS gave him the tools he needed to stop this debalcle. He chose to do nothing. He doesn't have the gumption or the imagination to think outside the corporate Dem box. He's content to simply hand us over to tyranny.
I hold no hopes Biden will do anything. Both he and Harris ignored the evidence of fraud that was given to them both. Even Obama ended up being the bankster's best buddy and gives speeches to banksters now for $600,000 a pop like the Clinton's do. They are still stealing homes using fraud and not being punished. When I first ran across him that was his deal. Housing affordability working the C Greens in Chicago. Oh, how power changes even the best people. Establishment dems are just what the name implies. Status quo 'til they breathe no mo'.
If he had done something, we wouldn't be at this juncture. I don't know if it's complicity, ignorance, cowardice or what, but I am so over thet Democratic Corporate Party. Again, they have shown themselves unequal to the task set before them.
What terrible day for America. Can we ever recover?
We protect the office of the presidency yet let in a man who wants to blow it up in favor of autocracy. We, as a nation, have lost touch with reason.
Yes. Why do we protect the office? Facts don’t seem to matter. Napoleon was sent to Elba. If only we could send Trump to Gitmo…
Alcatraz. He can't escape. He prefers being shot to being thrown to the sharks he said. Might be how he got the idea of an assassin and a concealed razor to slice his ear. Can you imagine the draft dodger shouting FIGHT after being shot?;That was so contrived. Dead men tell no tsils.
I kknew it was staged from Day One. Him with that stupid ear tampon. If a bullet even grazes your ear, it will do noticable damage. I wonder if he had a crushed fake blood packet in that clenched fist. He used to be with WWE or WWF, whatever. He'd know how to stage an injury.
Yes he gave the WWE boss a medal of freedom or a pardon or what ever. I figured that was for teaching him about mass hysteria and lending him his crowd urgers for his rallies. He never really tacked Mr McMaaaaan you TRUMPISTS. DAGS.
Yes, Mary Caulfield Davis, you are right on point
Mary,
Remember to save a little rage for Chief Justice John Roberts, the lickspittle that created a monarch breaking his own oath to US Constitution and paving the way for your uncle's continued unabated lawlessness into 2025 and the 47th presidency.
Yep. He's as guilty as any other idiot who enabled Trump.
I could cry, just lay down and bawl.
Please take care. We need smart people of good will and morals to build a 2.0 resistance, when they're ready.
You are not alone, but that fact does not help us.
Nope. Nothing helps us. We are the Calvary without horses or weapons.
It’s 2016 all over again: we watch in impotence and horror as this vile criminal damages, undermines, and sullies our country, and we are utterly helpless because WE obey the laws. The law keeps us from expressing or executing any action to effectively protest. Faced with lawlessness we who respect the law are neutralized, waiting sheeplike for…wait for it!—-the MIDTERMS!!! FOR TWO FULL YEARS, the new anti-American president will wale away at our Constitution, steal social security funds belonging to those who earned them, undo as much as he can of Benjamin Franklin’s USPS, bring disgrace and discredit upon our government, betray our allies, and jeopardize the last seventy years of hard-won global stability. Why? That is the question that bedevils me: why? Why is an American president hell-bent on sabotaging the US? Colluding with Putin? Just so he can build more tasteless hotels in the old USSR? Is this why this man who has enjoyed the most sumptuous wealth any nation can provide wants to unmake the source of that wealth? It’s a serious question: WHY?? It makes no sense.
I’m afraid it is truly insane and there’s a lunatic at the helm.
I have no confidence that there will even be midterms.
What a waste of money and time when they gave him nothing for his 34 convictions. Any regular person would have had the book thrown at them.
It’s the utter shamelessness that galls me.
Had he not "won" the election that he actually stole (there is proof that she would have won)....read up on what Arizona has put out on the web about what was found with them!) then he would be heading to prison / jail by now! Garland is actually not a democrat! I think that's why he hadnt had him checked out until after the j6 committee gave him their report.
There is no proof. Y'all really believe that Harris and Democrats would just let it slide, with as hard as everyone worked to get her elected? With what they all knew we'd be facing with trump in office for another 4 years? No way would any viable proof be kept a secret. Any number of true patriots would have found a way to let that cat out of the bag, to keep Cap'n Chaos out of our White House.
But there IS proof. Some admitted to on camera. This is but one thing of many that folks need to know about. Watch this documentary and see if you don't feel differently. I have been following and interacting with Greg for a while and he does not release things casually. He is a legit investigative reporter. Harris was made aware of this documentary by Rev Jackson when he visited her right after the election. saveyourvote (org)
Link to the documentary, please.
Yes, I do. They're corporate Dems through and through.
Interesting you bring up Arizona Theresa. A while back Arizona's secretary of state asked John Roberts Brakey to audit the elections there to be sure there wasn't an issue. That time he found none. The repubs got rid of her shortly afterwards. They wanted none of those audits even when they "win". John runs AUDIT Elections USA. A bipartisan org that has been auditing elections for quite a while. Great group to support. He is an expert on machine voting irregularities and how those kinds of steals are done.
None of that proves that Harris won, nor that he stole the election, so we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Again, I would suggest that Harris and other Dems would not let legitimate proof slide. They have brought innumerable lawsuits against the voter suppression tactics/laws of red states, and so have other groups like the ACLU... year after year. So it doesn't even make sense that they would let trump take office if they knew it wasn't a legitimate win.
I will say, too, that we have a responsibility, as citizens, to do our part to protect democracy. That includes our civic duty to register to vote, and to cast an informed ballot. Given that some 90 million eligible voters didn't get to the polls on Nov 5th, I'd say that any successful cheating by trump wasn't the problem. When the largest voting block in the U.S. is (and has been) NON-voters, we certainly have much more to concentrate on than suspicions/allegations of cheating. And seriously, why should Dem legislators, who warned and warned about a close election and what a trump win would mean... keep trying to fight for our rights, when the majority of us don't make it a point to engage?
Jae, Even until Friday I THOUGHT Drumpf would get something. Sucker punched again, I felt like Charlie Brown. Completely duped. Every time it looked like “Aha! We’ve got him now!” something got in the way and justice was stopped in its tracks and the CRIMINAL4547 slipped away.
The only consolation I’m seeing (and it’s likely not consolation for all the many people he hurt) is that he will keep dementing to the point he will no longer be able to stay in office or commit crimes. He will no longer be able to bully people. In the end, he will die unloved and disrespected.
I'm just so damn angry. This man has never ever ever been held accountable for anything and he never will be.
(Also Mary, I think in your second paragraph you meant to say "worth NOTING", yes?)
What the country needed right after Joe Biden was elected were tribunals that punished ALL of the MAGA coup actors with either prison, fines and expulsion from politics. That would have set the necessary precedent about what political behavior was acceptable and what wasn’t.
FELON Trump will be recorded in the Annals of History as the BIGGEST and WORST Mistake America EVER made.
And I will be wearing this "Guilty on all 34 Charges" shirt the next four years 👇
https://libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/34charges
Yes!
😉
You are exactly right. Biden chose to fritter away the time he was given to make sure justice was done. And yet the corporate Dems and their shills don't seem to care about anything but "the optics".
Alison, thanks for the possible correction re "worth NOTING." Nothing or noting, I suppose in a sense either one could apply.
If she meant 'nothing', it would be a contradiction in what she was saying. Her fingers must have been flying over the keyboard.
Australia does not issue visas to convicted felons, how many other countries have this same rule?
We do not want him crossing the border into Canada 🇨🇦
Canada has a different set of values and laws, and it seems like a bad move for anyone who’s been involved in actions that harm democracy or public trust.
Canada does not allow convicted felons through the border.
formality ony for trump
A lot do. I haven't double checked but Canada, UK, France and Germany have been named in other articles I've read. If I remember right Australia was included in there
I saw a map earlier. There are a lot of them, including Canada and Mexico.
....but does anyone really think these countries will stop him from crossing their borders???
Who knows? Strange things could happen.
Not holding my breathe, you understand.....
But would be pleasantly surprised, Paula.
Let's just pray for " strange things" to happen, my friend🙏
Amen to that. Only WE can make the strange happen.
👍
We can only hope that these Countries will forbid this FELON from entering their premises.
I think all countries should ban all trumps. Greenland was a little idiotic for letting Don Jr come there and act like an a******. They need to learn like Americans have that by inviting a trump somewhere you're giving them permission to Stage a lie, or a threat. It's all they got!
Why would a convicted felon worry about a visa when the Oval Office is on the table?😖
The only good thing is that Trump is really pissed that he is now a convicted felon.
Feeling like punching someone. Some orange thing.
My own first thought had to do with punching, but my second thought involved my fist going deep into a rotten tangerine... Ugh!
Pro tip: use gloves. Keeps the rotten tangerine gunk off your hands.
Fresh orange juice. 😀
This has become the most upside-down country! I never thought I'd see the day when someone like L'orange Pustule, a 34-count felon, could walk away without punishment while someone like Leonard Peltier stays in jail for something he didn't do. I'm so thoroughly disgusted with it all and don't know how I'll manage the next 4 years. I know it'll be ugly. :(
There’s a pretty good chance the orange cretin will become president for life. This is the end of democracy as we’ve known it. I’m so glad my Dad, a WWII veteran who fought for this country to defeat fascism, is not here to see this.
I've thought the same thing about my veteran dad, too, Jane. He died in 2017 at the age of 93 and absolutely hated tRump with a passion. He'd be so horrified about what is happening now, and afraid for all of us. Altho in some ways I wish he was here - he always had a very calming influence on me (and most people) and could see hope when others felt hopeless. We could all benefit from his presence now. And his good heart.
Thank you so much for sharing those fine qualities of your father. I hold the qualities of my father and uncles plus late friends dear, too. We have been so blessed!
I don't think he'll live long enough for another term. I'd be surprised if he gets through this one.
From your lips to God’s ear…
He has actually said the same thing Paula, but likely just to get more sympathy from his cult.
Sadly, if he dies or is assassinated, J.D. Vance would take over, which may be even worse than Trump, if that is possible. What then?
I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that Vance doesn't have Trump's charisma. (I don't think Trump has any myself, but obviously some people do.) What this might mean is a leadership vacuum in the Republican Party. And that could lead to it fracturing. That's a guess. I don't really know though. I have no experience with people who have sex with couches.
Let’s hope he has a stroke that leaves him completely incapacitated, unable to function and especially unable to speak or type, and out of necessity has to resign. I know that leaves Vance, but… poetic justice!!!
I wonder if he'd have someone apply his makeup for him.
My dad detests Trump, but he thinks it likely that Trump will try for a third term.
10 yrs is maximum for any president..........trump will have to leave after these 4 yrs but not sure what would happen if he does an executive order claiming that the constitution is null and void! omgggggg That's when every law would need to throw the book at him and put handcuffs on him then!
Careful reading of the 22nd amendment shows that it prevents someone from being >elected< President for more than eight years. Nothing prevents him from >assuming< the office by some other means, for example if he runs for vice president on the ticket and his President - for example, Don Jr. - resigns on day one. He could simultaneously leave the Constitution in place and become President for as long as he lives.
A more certain way to disqualify Trump from the President - ever - would have been disqualification by the 14th amendment through conviction for insurrection. But Attorney General M. Garland, M for Milquetoast, saw to it that this path would not be available to us. Now, his chance of being convicted of insurrection under any AG he appoints is somewhere between zero and, well, zero.
How many Articles/Amendments have been broken to get Trump where he is?
Strictly speaking, none. He has skilled lawyers who can walk him right up to the edge of the law, plus the Supreme Court has his back, thanks to Mitch McConnell who gave him three nominations instead of one. Speaking of Mitch, history will record that he had multiple chances to limit Trump's power, particularly through the second impeachment, post January 6th, when Trump was out of office and convicting him would have had absolutely no impact on the government. If democracy fails in the USA, Mitch will be remembered as one of the chief useful idiots, playing directly into the hands of the Trumpists who already had their return to power planned.
The problem is that the Constitution was written partly assuming that reasonable people would use it as a foundation for governing reasonably. There's lots of checks and balances to prevent political groups from exercising inappropriate power over other political groups, but it doesn't seem like anyone predicted that a single individual would capture an entire center of political power and turn them into his willing pawns. Trump did it more than once, capturing the national Republican party and, with their help, the Supreme Court. Once he's immunized for all official acts, and We the People put "our" confidence in his ability to govern however he wishes, the question of whether the Constitution can withstand the power center he's created.
We'll just have to see how the next two years go - if he isn't controlling the system of statewide elections by then, we may get out of this still standing. But the same talents who got him this far are very aware that 2026 is make-or-break for their quest for absolute, unchallenged power, and you can be sure they will do everything they can to have the midterm elections go their way.
And, as we've seen, they're very, very good at accumulating power.
Good question!
It might just be given to him, the way things are going.
I doubt his health will last long enough for a third term....That tub of lard and fast food has outlived his statistic life expectation already....
I share that concern for every honest, integrity filled veteran and citizen having to see such a disgrace to our country take place. The World War II loved ones in my family have also passed, but I feel like they are aware of what is happening.
Same here. My adopted father was a WWII veteran. I wonder what he'd make of this. He was a lifelong Republican, but I highly doubt he'd be down with this.
When I think of what WW2 did to my bio dad after serving in it I feel the same way. Those folks weren't weak like folks are now. They would rise up and do something about it. Now we cannot even be sure the military will not fire upon citizens for protesting this. Kent State on a bigger scale. Some of us asked Scott Air Force Base brass about what they would do about MAGA in their ranks if they went after citizens at a PR type gathering they had and they would not answer.
That could be bad or it could be good. Bad iif they would fire on fellow Americans. Good if they have some plans to deal with the MAGAs in their midst but don't want to show their hand.
Leonard Peltier should be freed immediately and with great apologies and attempts at compensations. What a tragic injustice he is experiencing!
You're absolutely right, JP4M. He's 80 yrs old, in very poor health. Let the poor man go back to his home.
What a sad day for laws and justice.
It really is. Moments like these make it feel like the principles of justice and fairness are being undermined, and it’s disheartening to see how laws can be bent or ignored to protect the powerful. Do you think there’s any way to restore faith in the system, or does it feel like we're witnessing the erosion of justice?
This most disgraceful man-baby spends day and night trying to convince himself that he is perfect and perfectly mistreated. But he knows that he can never be as important as the lowliest of his fellow men.
No one should accept his ‘judgment’; he is the most worthless of all.
“[the]big joke on democracy is that it gives its mortal enemies the means to its own destruction.”
-Joseph Goebbels
BAM! OUCH! Not at all amused by the joke. Our genius system delivers us to a completely irrational conclusion. A bloody miscarriage.
True. Horribly true. Is there nothing we can do? Must our hands be tied by the very democracy we need to defend??!
So much for “all men are created equal “ or “crime doesn’t pay” . Unless your name is Donald trump then you are elected president!
Judge Merchan is wrong to have concluded that, “It is the legal protections afforded to the Office of the President of the United States that are extraordinary, not the occupant.” He should have sentenced Trump just as he'd sentence any other criminal, and his sentence should have taken effect immediately. That would not put the Office of the President in any danger, and it needs no legal protections. The Constitution takes care of it. The 25th Amendment provides that, if "the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office [perhaps because he is in prison], the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office of Acting President." The Office of the President continues as usual, with no harm done.
The people of this country have the wrong idea about the office of the president; they treat it like the throne of a king. I'm not referring to the outrageous and extralegal finding by the six Republican politicians on the Supreme Court that the president is above the law. I'm referring to the fact that the president is a federal employee -- no more and no less. If a janitor who works for the federal government commits a crime and is sentenced to prison, does that threaten the Office of the Janitor? Of course not. The janitor's position can be filled by someone else while he or she is in prison, just as, under the 25th Amendment, the president's can be.
You are so right! Beautifully stated.
Talk about a miscarriage of justice!!!
Very inciteful. Youre absolutely right.25th Ammendment of the disgarded Constitution. He was found ineligable to run for his INSURRECTION . Yet @kamalaharris certified all present and accounted for.
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment makes Trump ineligible to be president because he engaged in an insurrection. The Republican justices on the Supreme Court issued a ruling that makes it impossible to apply section 3. But nothing in the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the final word in interpreting the Constitution. The Supreme Court gave itself that power in Marbury v. Madison in 1803, and it has become accepted. But now that the Republican justices have gone rogue and ignore the parts of the Constitution and federal laws they dislike, the executive and legislative branch ought to consider rejecting rogue Supreme Court decisions.
But the Democrats instead roll over. The 12th Amendment provides that the President of the Senate, which means the Vice President, shall count the Electoral votes. On January 6, Harris should have protested the vote on the grounds that it is unconstitutional for Trump to be president. It wouldn't have made a difference, except to remind the country of that fact, but that's important. Harris's silence on the matter was a repetition of Al Gore's silence in January 2001, when he did not protest that the Republican justices had stolen the presidency from him in Bush v. Gore. The Democrats need to stand up for themselves, but they won't.