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Charna Syposnik's avatar

Our weakness is showing. It's called lack of Education. If you compare us to the rest of the world yes it's really embarrassing and they're going to make us more uneducated. It's a very strange way to compete in the world isn't it? We will lose and that's how you make America great again!

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Chuck's avatar

No one can "make America great again" by making it stupid.

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red slider's avatar

Lack of? No, just another kind of. As I said in another comment,

Keep your eye on the ball, folks. The Dept. of Ed, is just a small obstacle being removed from the field of play. The real game is to take over and privatize all of American education. The even larger game is to hollow out the minds of our children and replace them with compliant clones filled with the nonsense of fascist, white supremacist, Christian nationalist hogwash. That makes the dynasties of fascist kings and the Axis of Despots a permanent feature of the American landscape, as each corrupted child's mind grows up and teaches their own children the same. That's how racism has endured for 160 years after the civil war. It's no secret. Blueprints right there in the text of Project 2025. Keep your eyes on Hillsdale College, Patriot Mobile and Academica Educational Mgmt Co. They are the little noticed spearheads of the takeover, already fairly far along in their plans to capture and destroy our public education system.

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Charna Syposnik's avatar

Hollowing out kids minds and filling it with crap is exactly what I was talking about. That is a lack of Education. That's exactly what religion does and all the institutions by which we live

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red slider's avatar

yes. I was just extending your own point. But it's really not much about religion. It's about the extremist ideologies of the right. That's the stuff they are really stuffing. Religion and religious schools were just a handy device to help them do that. They were simply able to hijack the religious school archipelago and graft themselves onto it. A convenient implement for their schemes. Before that happened, those religious schools pretty much kept to themselves and minded their own business. In many cases, they were important contributors to broader humanitarian and progressive agenda.

When Hillsdale College started out as a small religious college, it was abolitionist and the first university to admit black students, the second in the country to graduate women. It had generals who fought for the Union army. After it was hijacked in the 70's it became one of the architects of the educational agenda of Project 2025, and now is a leading spearhead of the right-wing takeover of public education.

I wrote a little history of how that all happened, www.poems4change.org/essays/education-end-of-evolution.pdf

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Chuck's avatar

Religion is a good thing. Forcing anyone's religion on anyone else is a bad thing. Operating like (fill in the blank) religion is a basis for government is worse.

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red slider's avatar

a good thing for adults, perhaps. Putting it in the defenseless minds of young children who cannot comprehend or decide for themselves is a form of child abuse. A recruiting tool used by organized religions to insure themselves of new members. Nothing more.

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Charna Syposnik's avatar

I sort of disagree. Close-minded education is not a type of education. Teaching children about God Is Not An Education, especially since no one knows anything about him. If you read the Bible as if God was somebody's name, which can easily be spelled out in Hebrew, it's a totally different story. After all, we too can make people.

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red slider's avatar

Not sure which comment you're responding to. My own view is that any religious training/conditioning in early childhood is a serious form of child abuse. One's choice of religious belief (or none) is a matter that can have lifetime consequences, positive and negative. A choice to be made only by adults who can comprehend what they are being told , not something to be fed into the defenseless minds of young children. In reality, it is nothing more than a recruiting tool used by organized religions to insure they will have new members. A completely dishonest and disingenuous method of creating captive audiences.

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Charna Syposnik's avatar

And create universes

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Susan Engelman's avatar

I donтАЩt know how other countries run their educational programs, as IтАЩve never taught in a school that wasnтАЩt a US Education of students is done on the STATE/ LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT LEVEL, States determine what students should know at each grade level. Individual school districts determine what programs/ books/ hands on science programs, etc. will be used for teaching all subjects & what grade theyтАЩll be taughtтАж in WISCONSIN 4th grade is usually the grade that covers Wisconsin history. Classes take field trips to local historical places: preserved old one room school houses, & whole day trip/ tour to the state Capital in Madison, WI. Sometimes the kids get a chance to meet the Governor.

The Federal Government is where states get funding for speech, & language teachers, guidance counselors, classroom aides for both physically disabled children & mentally challenged students including children w/ various degrees of autism.

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Susan Engelman's avatar

I donтАЩt think itтАЩs correct to make such a blanket statement on education unless you have actually seen test results for every school in the nation. And I doubt that most people have that type of access. As a retired elementary school teacher for the last 9 yrs., I donтАЩt look up my former colleagues yearly testing scores! They are working & while we may text each other sometimes, itтАЩs usually wishing each other HBD, it sharing &/or some photos. I know that made some curriculum changes.

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Susan Engelman's avatar

Not @ all a tRUMP fan, never have & would never vote for the insurrectionist, but heтАЩs obviously in the throes of dementia, his butt buddy VP is even worse than him! However I believe that he will not be around 4ever!!

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